...start a post with "so", you've already lost. That's just a way to reframe and misstate someone's position in order to attack a straw man. Try to work on this.

I can't believe someone of your intellect could miss the obvious irony and hypocrisy in this 14A effort. Using your terminology, Cruz, Hawley et al. were simply "using protective measures in the constitution" to challenge an election that they believe -- with ample evidence -- was both illegally and unconstitutionally administered in certain states. They have the constitutional right to do so. You need look no further than to the 2000, 2004 and 2016 Congressional election certifications, when Democrats exercised those same rights to contest the elections won by Republicans, to see that such contests are made with some regularity, and no one to my knowledge -- and certainly not a Democrat -- has ever called it sedition or insurrection.

You're free to disagree with Cruz, Hawley et al., but the exercise of constitutionally provided rights to contest an election is definitionally not "sedition", and certainly not "treason" no matter how much you with it were so.

If one persists with this line of thinking, however -- i.e., that their challenge to the election (the will of the voters) is sedition -- then any 14A effort to overturn the will of the voters in MO and TX would also be sedition, unless, of course, you wish to apply a double standard. On the other hand, if their challenge was not sedition, then there is no case for a 14A removal.

[Post edited by Los Angeles Hoo at 01/17/2021 11:12AM]