a bad idea to say "you got schooled". Can't really expect me to set it aside if you won't.

You were all about proof of my claim that illegal flow is a trickle, and you can't seem to grasp that if the overall numbers themselves from one point in time to a later point in time are unchanged, then clearly, there is no net inflow to speak of. A trickle. I guess I see why you'd like to set it aside. My friend, what you are really doing is claiming that 1-1 is in fact greater than 0, in spite of what we learned in 1st grade. Which is Trumpian, I'll give you that.

But setting that aside and all, why do you need no proof of these illegals holding all those great 75k to 80k jobs they're taking from right under our noses? I mean, you've offered nothing. In the case I make above, you were all about proof. With this, it's all about assumptions - and assumptions which, like your refusal to accept the 1-1=0 concept, defy logic. You yourself love to boast about the great unemployment stats under Trump. Fact is, we are pretty damn close to full employment, which is why you were boasting about rising wages recently (and when you are boasting about that for 2018, you will be on firmer footing crediting Trump). So, how can all these terrible Latin Americans with the language and other skills to take all our 75k jobs be doing that in any material way?

Answer - they can't, and they don't. It's fantasy, and it's fear mongering.