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Tom, let's agree to disagree. I admit to finding your line of debate

frustrating. No where, certainly not in this thread, have I said that I am a proponent of illegal immigration. You called me out on my assertion that flow of illegals at our southern border is a "trickle". That's inherently about the definition of materiality, so if you don't want to discuss it, you shouldn't have brought it up, calling me out specifically in the process.

All I would like is a rational framing of the problem, which we've never had under Trump. There is no crisis - crisis would mean a widespread issue. And again, I ask you, what happened to this need you used to have for proof and support. Now your "proof" is eyeballing construction sites?

Psst: lots of hispanic people are here legally. Some were even born here! So, what, you've been wondering around construction sites saying "PAPERS PLEASE!!"?
[Post edited by hoolstoptheheels at 09/14/2018 1:13PM]

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Just a trickle, right hoolstoptheheels? -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 1:42PM

Free healthcare in California for guest workers ...can't blame 'em ** -- Tuckahokie 09/13/2018 3:27PM

They contribute little in taxes, yet take a lot in benefits ** -- ConnHoo 09/13/2018 7:05PM

By "they" do you mean southerners? ** -- WahooRQ 09/13/2018 7:27PM

Hokies ** -- ConnHoo 09/13/2018 7:28PM

Only unproductive freeriders I see are Wahoo footballers 🙄 ** -- Beerman 09/13/2018 8:10PM

How can they be "guests" when they sneak in illegally? ** -- Wahoo Ron 09/13/2018 4:13PM

The word you are looking for is work. ** -- Shenhoo 09/13/2018 3:41PM

Our Hispanic Guest Workers have no problem with work...mucho respect -- Tuckahokie 09/13/2018 3:51PM

Because Trump is so popular; like a magnet for crossings ** -- WarmHoo 09/13/2018 3:23PM

Mexicans own you. ** -- WahooRQ 09/13/2018 2:56PM

PSA- Breitbart link ** -- Capital City Hoo 09/13/2018 2:40PM

Didnt Breitbart produce the video of google execs? Was that fake news? ** -- TpkeHoo 09/13/2018 2:46PM

The National Enquirer broke the story of Edwards' illegitimate baby and -- WahooRQ 09/13/2018 4:02PM

David Duke makes a mean cherry cheesecake ** -- hooshouse 09/13/2018 3:42PM

Would've pegged him more a fan of plain vanilla. ** -- Hoodafan 09/13/2018 4:17PM

I would guess he likes vanilla cherry, but not any chocolate on it. ** -- JohnHoo2 09/13/2018 5:06PM

Don't kid yourself. He surely sneaks chocolate when no one is looking. ** -- Hoodafan 09/13/2018 5:08PM

I am sure Rolling Stone is not wrong -- Shenhoo 09/13/2018 3:35PM

I have no idea, but I'm guessing there are a few of us who would -- Capital City Hoo 09/13/2018 3:33PM

Yes, I never miss an opportunity to be wrong. Oh ye great caller-outer -- hoolstoptheheels 09/13/2018 2:23PM

There is no way to know exactly how many successfully cross the border. -- Hooooooooooooooo 09/13/2018 8:27PM

I don't object to securing borders. I object to fear mongering. -- hoolstoptheheels 09/14/2018 08:39AM

It stops their vote importing strategy ** -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 9:42PM

Math? Emotions work much better.** -- HoosWillWin 09/13/2018 2:46PM

They sure do, don’t they? ** -- Hokieesith 09/13/2018 3:20PM

If you are -- HoosWillWin 09/13/2018 4:02PM

Show me the posts that make me racist. I'd like to see one. -- Hokieesith 09/13/2018 4:25PM

Gaawwdd. Please just go away. ** -- HoosWillWin 09/13/2018 4:30PM

Show me. ** -- Hokieesith 09/13/2018 4:38PM

You realize these are just the ones apprehended? -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 2:42PM

No Tom, you are being completely dishonest. Just look at the numbers -- hoolstoptheheels 09/13/2018 2:53PM

Did the Democrats ... -- HowieT3 09/13/2018 3:25PM

Dems are playing the long game...get 'em here, get 'em semi-assimilated, -- Tuckahokie 09/13/2018 3:31PM

Should be a safe bet with tom and wad -- Shenhoo 09/13/2018 4:32PM

Do you really, truly believe that Tuck? -- hoolstoptheheels 09/13/2018 3:59PM

Oh hell yea there is a plan for that -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 4:17PM

Well, I'm not surprised you believe it. I am a bit surprised that Tuck -- hoolstoptheheels 09/13/2018 4:39PM

Ask yourself why they fight every reasonable measure to limit immigration -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 7:49PM

I think you need to reconsider what you think of as "proof" if you think -- hoolstoptheheels 09/14/2018 08:19AM

It’s not fear mongering, are you really going to sit there and saying illeg -- TomKazanski 09/14/2018 09:07AM

Oh dear lord it is so the opposite of "harsh reality". Its orange reality. -- hoolstoptheheels 09/14/2018 10:32AM

Set aside the flow argument for a second -- TomKazanski 09/14/2018 11:01AM

Tom, when you want someone to set aside an argument, probably -- hoolstoptheheels 09/14/2018 11:56AM

Are you really trying to say that illegals are not taking 75k jobs -- TomKazanski 09/14/2018 12:12PM

Tom, let's agree to disagree. I admit to finding your line of debate -- hoolstoptheheels 09/14/2018 12:29PM

You’re trying to substantively debate a white trashionalist troll. -- WahooRQ 09/14/2018 08:54AM

Ask yourself why Trump lied and said that Mexico would pay for the wall. -- Shenhoo 09/13/2018 9:26PM

You're on to them! -- Beerman 09/13/2018 3:38PM

Trickle has nothing to do with the population that is here....that is just -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 3:02PM

Well, I have a strong fundamental disagreement with you. -- hoolstoptheheels 09/13/2018 3:55PM

You realize that apprehended means they were caught, right? -- 00 Hoo 09/13/2018 3:33PM

Curious how one estimates the ones -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 3:53PM

The link in my previous post explains that. -- 00 Hoo 09/13/2018 4:00PM

Got to let be the estimates of people you don’t know about exists -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 4:18PM

The report I linked describing the estimation methodology was published by -- 00 Hoo 09/13/2018 4:28PM

Who is hiring these people? Would that be a place we should disincentivize -- THECZAR 09/13/2018 3:29PM

You actually outdid yourself with that one. You -- 111Balz 09/13/2018 3:17PM

Tom's definition of a trickle is less than 100 and he wants the number to -- THECZAR 09/13/2018 2:58PM

Well, the increase vs 2017 is because 2017 was the lowest level since 1971. -- 00 Hoo 09/13/2018 2:23PM

Wow so all you have to do is compare it to a previous time period and if -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 2:44PM

Whew! Thought you had the pee tape. ** -- Shenhoo 09/13/2018 2:14PM

He seems to have created a virtual pee tape. -- 111Balz 09/13/2018 3:19PM

I'm sure he dreams of starring in one though. He would be happy to put on -- WahooRQ 09/13/2018 2:21PM

I get the feeling the Tom's poster of Trump playing tennis is soiled.** -- Shenhoo 09/13/2018 2:39PM

Here is a historical chart of this data year over year. 2018 only includes -- THECZAR 09/13/2018 2:14PM

Thank God W wrecked the economy. ** -- Shenhoo 09/13/2018 2:15PM

If it kept out the Mexicans, it was the right thing to do! ** -- Beerman 09/13/2018 2:19PM

Source is the border patrol. No real issues there. Do you want this to be -- THECZAR 09/13/2018 2:05PM

I want the number to be 0. I would define a trickle as less than 100. -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 2:56PM

Do ppl think the start & end of the separation policy had an impact on #s? ** -- TpkeHoo 09/13/2018 2:08PM

You can map those on the months. I dont know the dates for those though. -- THECZAR 09/13/2018 2:37PM

Guess TrumpCo's zero tolerance intimidation program was counterproductive, -- WaxHoo 09/13/2018 2:03PM

So illegal immagration was better controlled during Obama's adminstration? ** -- JohnHoo2 09/13/2018 1:55PM

It hasn’t been controlled ever, that’s the point -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 2:48PM

Why so desperate today, sweetie? Sad, esp with all that winning ... ** -- WaxHoo 09/13/2018 1:53PM

All u libs need to pipe down and chill - trump owns you so bad your all -- WahooRQ 09/13/2018 1:59PM

Ugh. NSFW warning please -- Beerman 09/13/2018 1:47PM

LOL! Do you work at Google? Or Correct the Record with our "only true -- Hoodafan 09/13/2018 2:33PM

Another kneejerk attack the source response. Dem playbook 101 ** -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 1:50PM

Yeah you don't ever attack the source. Gtfoh ** -- wahoo138 09/13/2018 1:58PM

An unsourced number in a Breitbart article! ** -- Fuzzy Dunlop 09/13/2018 1:46PM

And an excellent selective statistic to boot. -- Beerman 09/13/2018 1:50PM

Lmao, I know you don’t like it so you kneejerk to attack source -- TomKazanski 09/13/2018 1:49PM

Only idiots believe ANYTHING on that site ** -- 111Balz 09/13/2018 2:53PM

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