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hoolstoptheheels

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Any dem calling for the abolition of ICE is a clown.


And there are too many of them. It absolutely plays into the hands of demagogues who want to characterize that as "we want amnesty for all!". That's absurd, but yet all Trumpies make that claim.

Obviously I totally disagree with you. But we won't agree, and tomorrow, we'll see how the message resonates, because I see that as the singular issue driving Trumpie turnout. I think I was mostly wrong about how much damage would be done by the Kavanaugh nonsense. I think Trump's hysterics over the caravan overshadow all. And I think any attempt to downplay the creeping caravan as a national crisis, which are the words Trump uses, are met with accusations about demeaning and mocking (the concept of the caravan as a national crisis requiring deployment of 15 to 20k troops is mock-worthy).

Dems are no picnic on this issue. They should have gone all in on the DACA compromise and hung the failure on the Tea Party, which I bet would have balked. So this is not a pro-dem argument. It's an anti-bullshit argument. An anti-Trumpism argument. Trumpism = create national emergencies in the culture wars out of thin air.

(In response to this post by Hoodafan)

Posted: 11/05/2018 at 1:58PM



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A republican scare tactic -- hoothat 11/05/2018 11:59AM
  Well, yes, you seem to be ** -- 111Balz 11/05/2018 1:11PM
  Cortez... ** -- hoothat 11/05/2018 12:56PM
  Show me. -- hoolstoptheheels 11/05/2018 12:59PM
  K -- hoothat 11/05/2018 1:08PM
  Ummm...I did link them -- hoothat 11/05/2018 1:36PM
  Just another Faux News myth. ** -- Hoodafan 11/05/2018 12:32PM
  Funny as hell. ** -- Chuck Taylor 11/05/2018 12:57PM
  "NO one is calling for open borders. " ** -- hoothat 11/05/2018 12:29PM
  That group's last event was in August 2017. ** -- WahooMatt05 11/05/2018 12:22PM
  Abolish ICE. Resist. -- hoothat 11/05/2018 12:24PM
  Borders are dangerous. Borders destroy lives. -- hoothat 11/05/2018 12:20PM

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