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The problem with politics. Right now dems are like a guy walking into

A sweltering hot room, and he sets the thermostat down to 40 to compensate. The room cools off just as fast if you set it to 75. The dems are compensating for what they see as extremism from the right in the WH by sprinting to the other extreme.

Telling a bunch of unionized blue collar workers that they'll no longer be able to keep their hard won private health insurance is not only unnecessary to address the attempts by Trump to dismantle Ocare, it will help ensure that those voters remain with Trump. Trump has turned into Ocare's greatest booster - it's never been so popular in Trump country. Now most dems are joining the repubs in calling for it to be dismantled.

I don't agree with that, but of course there isn't a single Marxist in the group of dem candidates. Not even the Notorious AOC qualifies as a Marxist. That's just this election season's new favorite sex toy for Trumpie pep rallies, along with send her back! Like lock her up last time - it's how Trumpies join hands and reach group orgasm. So dems shouldn't worry about how it plays when they call out Trump's courtship of the racist right with those tweets giving birth to the new "send her back" political vibrator with which they've started exciting themselves. They should call it out for what it is. Red meat for racists, as the recent mob chants confirmed, along with Trump's Cville-like response to it. First, a half assed condemnation, along with a bald faced lie about trying to talk over the crowd - he didn't. But that initial condemnation, such that it was, has since been erased by Trump's full throated support of the racism. Trump calls it patriotism.

The dems should call that out. But they shouldn't make their platform all about it. They should distinguish themselves and then focus on issues (and not by telling 10s or 100s of millions of Americans that their perfectly good private HC is about to disappear). Anyone screaming or defending the "send her back" chants is deeply unlikely to vote dem. Winning them is not the point. Engaging their own base to get out and vote will be the point, and how they can avoid another popular win but electoral loss.

(In response to this post by Wahoo Ron)

Posted: 07/21/2019 at 09:11AM

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