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I don't disagree with anything you said. And i appreciate the

Fact that you don't live on the soapbox. I don't either. What bothered me was that i offered a question on a left based position...mostly out of curiosity and a desire to understand. Instead, i got more questions initially and not one answer to what i believe it's a pretty straight forward question.
I very much agree with your thoughts on young kids and CRT and not understanding the nuance. And with that, there are examples of an abuse of that in K-12. Is it widespread...rampant...probably not. But it is too much and trending the wrong direction in my opinion. I have 3 kids in school for what it's worth...3rd, 5th, and 6th.
What I have said in this thread is that before a productive conversation can occur on the merits of CRT in schools, what is age appropriate, the pos/neg, etc, we have to start from an honest place...and the statement of "it's not in the schools" is not an honest start.

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Posted: 11/03/2021 at 10:05PM

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Thoughts on Virginia that go against the false equivalency of our 2 parties -- Bacon 11/03/2021 12:29PM

Imposing the agenda of small minority groups as if they are mainstream does -- Hooooooooooooooo 11/03/2021 1:25PM

I read this article in The NY Times and thought -- BocaHoo91 11/03/2021 1:43PM

CRT is real. why deny the truth? ** -- MasterRusty 11/03/2021 1:06PM

I would like several on the Left on here also to clarify "it doesn't exist" -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 1:17PM

We’ve been saying the same thing over and over, it’s not part of public sch -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 1:50PM

Exactly. Those on the right are being deliberately dense. Why not? It works ** -- HoosWillWin 11/03/2021 2:40PM

If i subscribe to the notion that it's not part of the curriculum (I dont), -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 1:59PM

Could you please link to a curriculum that teaches this? Nobody -- HoosWillWin 11/03/2021 2:42PM

Sure, you'll knock the source... -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 2:51PM

Ok that's very good and important source material investigation. Thank you -- southdenverhoo 11/03/2021 4:28PM

Can you be specific? I read the first one. BFD. It is a 5 page letter -- HoosWillWin 11/03/2021 3:44PM

No, I cannot be specific...correction, I will not. -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 3:56PM

I think "cannot" is the proper word. Yes, CRT exists, but as far -- HoosWillWin 11/03/2021 4:39PM

No, it's will not... -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 4:44PM

Lol! I did. The first two documents are "cannot." I can only -- HoosWillWin 11/03/2021 5:07PM

You're a moron...who never answered the question, congrats ** -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 8:35PM

Balz found it, so can you. It's been provided... -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 5:12PM

You have reading comprehension problems. I'm not kidding. -- HoosWillWin 11/03/2021 5:21PM

Interesting thing about CRT is it holds that individuals aren't racist, the -- southdenverhoo 11/03/2021 4:38PM

I don’t know anything about the source,But the materials he links don’t sup -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 2:58PM

The documents in the source call our CRT over and over again. -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 3:00PM

I went back and finished with your link and I see one reference to critical -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 3:13PM

Good lord balz, so is it called out or not? -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 3:20PM

I don’t know what you’re trying to ask but you started out by asking someon -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 3:28PM

It's been made by the left and by posters on here ad nauseum. -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 3:33PM

I’ve seen no one say that critical race theory does not exist. -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 4:02PM

We had our bumps, but this turned into a good convers. -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 4:06PM

And vice versa! ** -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 4:28PM

I’ve never made that statement and I don’t know of anyone who has. -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 2:14PM

I wont argue that the right has manipulated the def. However, the left has -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 2:41PM

Well they’re not and what you linked. I’ll admit that I didn’t finish that -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 2:59PM

Where? Please link. ** -- HoosWillWin 11/03/2021 2:43PM

Link what specifically? I said more than one thing ** -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 2:47PM

Document trails of them teaching CRT. Mountains of evidence in -- HoosWillWin 11/03/2021 2:49PM

Some of the ideas are certainly going to be considered and discussed... -- Cav113 11/03/2021 1:38PM

Thanks, so you're saying it does exist in public schools, but perhaps in a -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 1:45PM

That's not quite what I'm saying. Regardless... -- Cav113 11/03/2021 2:10PM

Sorry, i didn't mean to imply the theory was extreme, -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 2:30PM

Well it’s certainly being pushed by Republicans as extreme and a good case -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 3:33PM

Since you seem to think it does, how exactly is it being implemented in -- Seattle .Hoo 11/03/2021 1:19PM

You do this often SeatleTBH, it grates me a bit. -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 1:21PM

I don't care if it does. However, I've been offline for a few hours so -- Seattle .Hoo 11/03/2021 9:06PM

I don't disagree with anything you said. And i appreciate the -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 10:05PM

Bullshit. I don't believe it is either widespread or rampant, whatever the -- Seattle .Hoo 11/03/2021 10:55PM

What specifically did i say that was "bullshit?" -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 11:32PM

The widespread and rampant part. And of what I have no idea. I've read your -- Seattle .Hoo 11/03/2021 11:47PM

CRT as any kind of a threat to VA families was complete fiction -- Bacon 11/03/2021 1:49PM

Thanks, I would agree with your 2nd para wrt broad definition. -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 1:55PM

Can you share the CRT examples in VA that resonate with you? -- Bacon 11/03/2021 2:25PM

Sure, via documentation and slides in VA over the past few years.... -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 2:34PM

So over 6 years there have been a few memo's stating CRT has some merits -- Bacon 11/03/2021 2:42PM

No, you asked for examples, not a list that is entire. That might take -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 2:46PM

I'm asking for examples of why Virginia parents are suddenly so upset -- Bacon 11/03/2021 3:08PM

False...on just about everything you said -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 3:16PM

Thanks, I'm happy with the ability to form viewpoints based upon reality -- Bacon 11/03/2021 3:42PM

So maybe you could answer his question now, since he answered yours ** -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 2:17PM

Maybe I could if Bacon asked a question, but he didn't. ** -- Folly Beach Hokie 11/03/2021 2:42PM

Actually I was talking about Seattle but I may have been lost in string ** -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 5:22PM

CRT is the same as the support of rebel flags and confederate monuments ** -- RoanokeHoo 11/03/2021 1:16PM

They aren’t used much anymore though ** -- TomGlansAski 11/03/2021 1:13PM

You don’t have the first clue what either CRT or truth mean ** -- 111Balz 11/03/2021 1:10PM

I used to have one in my living room. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/03/2021 1:10PM

All true. One party plays by the rules. One does not. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 11/03/2021 1:01PM

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LA would suggest the Ds do everything theDonald did and more -- Capital City Hoo 11/03/2021 1:01PM

Self justification for what is obvious irresponsibility. -- Chuck Taylor 11/03/2021 1:17PM