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There are mental health issues and there are psychopathic murderers -- Faz d. Hoo 03/06/2018 5:08PM ...as long as Psychiatrists are reimbursed at or below Pediatrician rates -- Tuckahokie 03/06/2018 5:06PM I hope that someday we treat mental health no differently than physical -- HoosInLondon? 03/06/2018 3:41PM I'd like to know if people were more (or less) healthy mentally in periods -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 4:46PM People like that were either committed to mental institutions or simply -- Faz d. Hoo 03/06/2018 5:15PM I'm not really talking about the extremes, though. I'm talking more about -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 5:38PM Here is a better response (link) -- Faz d. Hoo 03/06/2018 8:47PM Lots of people turned to alcohol -- Faz d. Hoo 03/06/2018 7:47PM Doesn’t have to be either or -- Simeon 03/06/2018 12:27PM The only time we talk about mental health is in relation to mass shootings -- WahooMatt05 03/06/2018 1:18PM Australia didn't get rid of guns, though. There are more guns there now -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 5:31PM Put restrictions on the type of guns you can own -- KCHoo 03/06/2018 8:27PM That really wouldn’t impact suicide rates, though. ** -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 10:16PM You wouldn’t think so. Australia seems like a pretty happy place overalll. ** -- KCHoo 03/07/2018 6:29PM An interesting question to ask is...although Australia's suicides declined -- Hoo23 03/06/2018 2:17PM Suicide is commonly a crime of opportunity. Someone who doesn't have a gun -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:34PM I suppose that is why Japan has a suicide rate almost double that of the US ** -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:36PM That doesn't make a point at all. If Japan had guns everywhere, they would -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:43PM How about unrelenting pressure to succeed in school, and at work? ** -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 3:39PM You mean cultural issues may play role? Who would have guessed? -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:41PM Sadly, two young men we knew well did just that -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 3:10PM WV teachers granted the pay increase they demanded. -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 3:30PM All for broader efforts to address mental health -- Simeon 03/06/2018 1:59PM I'm not necessarily in favor of that -- WahooMatt05 03/06/2018 2:07PM I don't think it's a scapegoat as a frustration that these people aren't -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:48PM Mental health issues are not the major factor in mass shootings -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 1:04PM So are you saying that it's just a coincidence most mass shootings were -- Hoo23 03/07/2018 12:53PM I’m sure there’s some truth to that- people can disagree on the numbers -- Simeon 03/06/2018 1:37PM So you really believe that someone willing to kill multiple people -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 1:29PM One can be disturbed, evil, or violent without being mentally ill, and most -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 1:43PM Are you really that naive and idiotic to believe that someone willing -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 1:54PM You seem like a moron who hasn't figured out he's not a doctor. ** -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:29PM I figured you couldn't come back with a proper counter. Typical and boring. ** -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 2:40PM The mindless stupidity of an armchair physician gets the response it merits ** -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:45PM You mean the fact that you haven't been able to give one counter argument -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 2:50PM Dude. The point is you keep talking about what constitutes "mental illness -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:57PM You don't see a difference between ordinary acts of violence, say, hitting -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:34PM .....and mental illness can be involved in either case or not. -- Chuck Taylor 03/06/2018 3:41PM The point is either can be the result of a multitude of reasons. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:41PM But most of the high profile mass shootings are planned well in advance. -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 4:21PM What's your level of training to give that expert opinion dude? Of course -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 3:08PM If I understand your point, it must be -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 3:15PM Another potential issue is that responsible gun owners could become very -- Tuckahokie 03/06/2018 3:23PM I'm not the one making up my own definition of mental illness, dumb ass. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:11PM You are completely clueless and clearly uneducated. You've had your -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 3:14PM Clearly. You owned this debate. Even redefined a medical term. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:24PM Again, having mental health issues that should block you from passing a -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 3:42PM He has argued time and again that anyone who commits murder is insane. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:44PM And here I thought is was just because you were breathing... ** -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 4:00PM Well that and he insulted my Hillary doll. That's some line-steppin' shit -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 4:04PM Did you think this post would surprise anyone? :-) ** -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 4:11PM Mental illness or mental/emotional trauma, yes. But diagnosed vs. -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 2:14PM That I agree with 100%. I believe we have to do a better job of diagnosing -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 2:41PM And yet virtually all the high profile mass shootings in recent history -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 1:52PM So you are directly contradicting the linked article and virtually -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 2:13PM I think he said "high-profile" ** -- hoothat 03/06/2018 2:23PM Yes. I can read but thanks so much for your help ** -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 2:28PM Then why did you not address his statement? -- hoothat 03/06/2018 2:34PM I did. ** -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 4:33PM And yet you didn't ** -- hoothat 03/06/2018 4:35PM Well, there you go again. attempting to misdirect -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 4:36PM YOU tried to redirect it. It's what poor debaters do. ** -- hoothat 03/06/2018 4:38PM Then why'd you say that, chief? Who are you, man, Isaac fucking Newton? -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:37PM Lol, you're cute. ** -- hoothat 03/06/2018 2:39PM Can you name a mass murderer from recent history who had not -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 2:19PM Vegas, Orlando, San Beradino, Dylan Roofzanski, etc. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:28PM Paddock (psychotropic drugs), Orlando (unknown because he was never -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:07PM Roof took an opioid for recreational purposes and Klebold took nothing at -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:21PM Ummm, Roof was taking Suboxone -- hoothat 03/06/2018 2:38PM A painkiller, dude. One a neo nazi. You're really reaching now. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:47PM It's not a painkiller, dude. -- hoothat 03/06/2018 3:05PM Keep reaching. As usual, you're clueless. -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:09PM Umm, I k ow what suboxone is... -- hoothat 03/06/2018 3:23PM Bingo! Enjoy your cigar -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 3:35PM Is that sarcasm? -- hoothat 03/06/2018 3:43PM Not at all. -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 4:00PM I've witnessed my OD'd niece fighting with an EMT crew trying to administer -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 4:42PM Sorry that your family is dealing with that. ** -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 6:08PM It's been an interesting journey. Mid-30s,PhD level educator, married with -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 6:16PM Didn't intend to use a blanket statement -- hoothat 03/06/2018 4:05PM Do you know it has no link to violence at all and wasn't even prescribed -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 3:35PM I am saying the guy had a few screws loose -- hoothat 03/06/2018 3:50PM Meh...he's just a common junkie. Don't believe me, just ask RQ. ** -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 6:03PM Okay 3 things.1) answer my effing question for once; 2) show me where he -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 2:27PM 1. Which effing quesition? 2. Who are you talking about? 3. I didn't say -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 3:16PM Dude your posts are right there ** -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 4:31PM You have lost it. ** -- hoothat 03/06/2018 4:37PM Spot on ** -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 1:54PM There's also the issue of actual behavior -- Beerman 03/06/2018 1:44PM Read the article I linked below in the thread ** -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 1:35PM That sounds like a philosophical position -- Beerman 03/06/2018 1:32PM Primarily obsessional obsessive compulsive disorder is a medically defined -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 1:48PM There you go. Beliefs are philosophical -- Beerman 03/06/2018 1:57PM Social anxiety disorder...general anxiety or depression has led to -- SokurHoo83 03/06/2018 2:03PM I'm not arguing that... -- Beerman 03/06/2018 2:10PM I'm confused, then what are you arguing for? That we don't expand on the -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 2:52PM I'm taking issue with the first post I responded to in this thread -- Beerman 03/06/2018 2:59PM Personally I'm fine with chalking someone up to being bat chit crazy if -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 3:18PM Personally, I would -- Beerman 03/06/2018 3:31PM Exactly. The legal definition is based on "knowing right from wrong". -- HowieT3 03/06/2018 1:39PM Would being a sociopath not be counted? Because I would think that has to -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 1:45PM I think the point is "being a sociopath" isn't a mental illness. It just -- WahooRQ 03/06/2018 2:52PM But you can be clinically diagnosed as one. Or a psychopath. Or having -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 3:07PM I'd be curious as to the mass shootings that did not involve mental illness -- Hokie5150 03/06/2018 1:15PM There is certainly a difference between diagnosed and undiagnosed, and -- 111Balz 03/06/2018 1:55PM Noticed that as well. So I searched for the source doc -- hoothat 03/06/2018 1:44PM There are other links in that article -- NJHoo 03/06/2018 1:33PM Yeah, I suspect there was some selective statistics going on there wrt -- Hoodafan 03/06/2018 1:28PM