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hoolstoptheheels

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I think you are referring to more traditional attempts to


Exploit vulnerabilities to work within the system to grab and hold power. That is nothing new, and both parties have done most of these things. Gerrymandering is certainly not just a repub phenomenon, although the repub party imo is far better at organizing and strategizing, and understood the value of winning the states perhaps more than dems did over the last 10 or 20 years.

What we are seeing now goes far beyond any of these usual “within the system” types of things that of course repubs will continue to use. If Bern and others embrace the label “socialist”, and American voters recoil from that in large enough numbers to defeat that label, then repubs will continue to use it against them.

Dems need to look in the mirror about stuff like that. Trump saying that “Pence better do his job by not doing his Constitutional duty” - repubs need to look in the mirror about that. This is the guy you elected - when it finally comes to a choice between him and the Constitution, where do you come down?

Too many come down on the side of Trumpist loyalty. But many don’t, and they appear to be sticking to their guns.

(In response to this post by 81_Hokie)

Posted: 01/05/2021 at 09:55AM



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WSJ - Coming Republican Civil War. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/05/2021 08:57AM
  Ba-Donka Ivanka ** -- Tuckahokie 01/05/2021 10:50AM
  You’re on to something! Why wait? ** -- hoolstoptheheels 01/05/2021 10:49AM
  Who's spankin' 'Vanka? ** -- 81_Hokie 01/05/2021 10:50AM
  Why Daddy, of course. Was there any doubt? ** -- TomGlansAski 01/05/2021 10:55AM
  Pence cannot do that. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 01/05/2021 10:20AM
  Imploding? You serious Clark? ** -- HoodatB 01/05/2021 11:14AM
  Sedition Party for short ** -- WaxHoo 01/05/2021 10:25AM
  Hoo exactly do you see imploding, and how ... ** -- WaxHoo 01/05/2021 10:23AM
  Don’t play along ** -- Molina 01/05/2021 10:10AM
  Nancy gets sworn in on 1/20 ** -- Brown Water 01/05/2021 09:57AM
  Nothing, it’s just ceremonial. ** -- DownTownHoo 01/05/2021 09:56AM
  Not really. There are many repubs drawing a line at sedition. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 01/05/2021 10:16AM
  They're in the Patriots party ** -- WaxHoo 01/05/2021 10:22AM
  I think you are referring to more traditional attempts to -- hoolstoptheheels 01/05/2021 09:55AM
  Sigh. I should have known ** -- 81_Hokie 01/05/2021 10:33AM
  Yup :>) ** -- Tuckahokie 01/05/2021 10:55AM
  Yes always beginning of the end, tipping point ** -- HokieDan95 01/05/2021 09:45AM
  Dan still hasn’t proven he wasn’t smoking that pipe -- TomGlansAski 01/05/2021 09:40AM
  Sounds like he's hitting it this morning. ** -- VAGentleman05 01/05/2021 09:47AM
  Agreed, each assertion quite ridiculous -- Quaker 01/05/2021 09:09AM
  LOL at calling the small Constitutional Wing -- Shenhoo 01/05/2021 09:37AM
  Exactly Shen. They are “surrendering” to the Constitution. -- hoolstoptheheels 01/05/2021 09:57AM
  They aren’t above stealing an election. -- hokie in cville 01/05/2021 09:13AM

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