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hokie in cville
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Don’t worry, our standing in the rest of the world can’t go lower after DJT
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We leave by Aug 31 per Taliban deadline; no more Afghans allowed to airport
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orangenblue
08/24/2021 12:17PM
The withdraw has been a debacle, but not sure how it makes us look
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JohnHoo2
08/24/2021 1:44PM
Our military advisors really misjudged the speed of the government's fall **
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RoanokeHoo
08/24/2021 2:02PM
A good friend’s family is in hiding in Kabul … they’re being targeted by
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CharlestonSC
08/24/2021 1:16PM
It is sad. **
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DanTheFan
08/24/2021 2:07PM
Sad and shameful **
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orangenblue
08/24/2021 1:52PM
Is it 8/31 yet? **
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111Balz
08/24/2021 1:14PM
One Afghan-American woman I saw on the news…
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FxHoo
08/24/2021 12:36PM
Working for the USPS could be a condition for immigrating. Win win. **
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hokie in cville
08/24/2021 1:02PM
If we took all the women out of Afghanistan… **
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hooshouse
08/24/2021 12:38PM
Then some of these guys might get a date? **
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CAVern
08/24/2021 12:49PM
Naaaah **
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81_Hokie
08/24/2021 12:59PM
Relax- I've been assured we're respected in the world again with Joey. **
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ResistHoo
08/24/2021 12:31PM
I disagree. Our adversaries would like nothing more than for us to stay in
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 12:23PM
Wouldn’t bleeding resources be justified if they are needed to evacuate
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Hoos Operator
08/24/2021 12:38PM
Maybe. But let's assume that the Taliban are intransigent on this point.
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 12:44PM
If we don’t protect American and SIV lives there, what message are we
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Hoos Operator
08/24/2021 1:00PM
Again, maybe. Every situation is different. And our SIV program is a mess
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 1:09PM
Nor does it justify a President misleading Americans that this will not be
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Hoos Operator
08/24/2021 1:16PM
Or more successful in terms of how many we're evacuating. But you still
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 1:18PM
You don’t believe this clusterfuck won’t be viewed by how many are left
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Hoos Operator
08/24/2021 1:27PM
SIVs? No flipping way. Americans? As we've already noted, we don't even
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 1:38PM
You’re asking me to answer a rhetorical question which nobody can answer at
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Hoos Operator
08/24/2021 1:53PM
My point exactly. There is no good answer. In my opinion, our ending if
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 1:56PM
I strongly disagree. Proper implementation would have saved lives, billions
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Hoos Operator
08/24/2021 2:08PM
Why do you believe that? We've been withdrawing for over a year. **
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 3:18PM
With proper planning, American civilians and Afghans with SIV’s should have
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Hoos Operator
08/24/2021 3:28PM
Then you are dead wrong....our adversaries are revelling
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orangenblue
08/24/2021 12:28PM
Remember when we kept being told Trump would damage or destroy NATO?
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Hoodafan
08/24/2021 12:58PM
It's not a good situation, but the politicians in Europe are trying to
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Maupin233
08/24/2021 12:39PM
Underestimating the reaction of NATO. Military power is partially based on
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orangenblue
08/24/2021 12:49PM
The withdrawal from Afghanistan is a black eye for the US in terms of
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Maupin233
08/24/2021 1:07PM
You neo-cons have lots of songs but only one note
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southdenverhoo
08/24/2021 12:34PM
Bolton isn't wrong, at least not entirely. But the potential for radicalism
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 12:43PM
I'm not a neo con...I'm actually against getting involved in foreign
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orangenblue
08/24/2021 12:37PM
Reasonable. **
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 12:47PM
It’s hard to shake Trump from the top spot
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hooshouse
08/24/2021 12:39PM
Fair enough, my apologies for the mis-read. **
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southdenverhoo
08/24/2021 12:38PM
Regardless of what they are saying today, neither you nor I nor the defense
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 12:33PM
HK is a stronger note to Taiwan on what to expect from China
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Bacon
08/24/2021 12:32PM
Didn't we withdraw from NATO? Who cares about them? **
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81_Hokie
08/24/2021 12:31PM
I served in NATO....this is a shameful CF.
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orangenblue
08/24/2021 12:34PM
Plus, the longer we stay, the more likely a suicide bomber blows up
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hooshouse
08/24/2021 12:28PM
Iran, China, and a number of former Soviet states border Afghanistan.
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Maupin233
08/24/2021 12:27PM
It isn't a question of us leaving (I blame W for entanglement)...but how
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orangenblue
08/24/2021 12:31PM
I've stated on multiple occasions that the execution of the withdrawal is
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Maupin233
08/24/2021 12:51PM
Read the China Daily Mail or Izvestia
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orangenblue
08/24/2021 1:13PM
If they had kept the SIV program going maybe more would have gotten out. **
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hooshouse
08/24/2021 12:22PM
4 years of Stephen Miller (pic)
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Hoo TV
08/24/2021 1:35PM
By they you mean the Trump admin, right?
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hoolstoptheheels
08/24/2021 12:32PM
And let me add this bullshit(link)
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hooshouse
08/24/2021 12:36PM
All good points. Problem is, this isn’t a 0-sum blame game.
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hoolstoptheheels
08/24/2021 12:42PM
It’s an 18-24 month vetting process, and sometimes longer.
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hooshouse
08/24/2021 12:34PM
House, take off the blinders **
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WaxHoo
08/24/2021 1:32PM
Isn't or can't that vetting be done in a 3rd country, as was done with
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Hoodafan
08/24/2021 12:49PM
Ok, then we either streamline the vetting process, or Bagram AF Base
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hoolstoptheheels
08/24/2021 12:40PM
Don’t worry, our standing in the rest of the world can’t go lower after DJT **
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hokie in cville
08/24/2021 12:21PM
Well....that's not true. orangenblue has brought up some solid points
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 12:27PM
As big a clusterfuck as this withdrawal appears to be, our NATO standing
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hokie in cville
08/24/2021 12:38PM
Our allies might like Biden better than Trump, but I can't help but worry
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CAVern
08/24/2021 12:59PM
Don't think that Jan 6 didn't send a huge message to our allies and
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 1:02PM
LOL! The saddest part is you probably believe that garbage. **
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Hoodafan
08/24/2021 1:09PM
The saddest part is that you can't see it. In fact you parade it like a
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 1:10PM
You actually think NATO, Taiwan, and others worry more about Jan 6 than our
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Hoodafan
08/24/2021 1:13PM
Yes. **
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 1:21PM
Like I said, saddest part........ **
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Hoodafan
08/24/2021 1:22PM
They worry about our stability as a nation. **
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111Balz
08/24/2021 1:17PM
Understand that I'm not specifically attacking the right nor the left
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CAVern
08/24/2021 1:08PM
Biden has gotten more criticism from Europe than Trump ever did
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orangenblue
08/24/2021 12:52PM
Biden may or may not be bungling the withdrawal, but I don't think the
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Seattle .Hoo
08/24/2021 12:46PM
Yes, I expect France and Germany will leave NATO and are now in talks to
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81_Hokie
08/24/2021 12:21PM
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