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Los Angeles Hoo

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Fair enough. For the record...


...when I and others refer to his "mean tweets", we're either just trolling or using shorthand. While we disagree with you, we understand that you and others perceive Trump's transgressions to go far beyond his Twitter feed. I understand your objections to him, and I understand the reasons for them. Frankly, I wish he'd tone his shit down a bit if only because I think it sometimes hurts the cause more than it helps.

With that said, two additional comments:

1) The people you've supported in lieu of Trump, along with their ideological fellow travelers, carried out perhaps the greatest political crime in U.S. history in their effort to frame Trump and others for treason and other crimes during and following the 2020 election. Nothing that Trump has done comes close to subverting our democracy, rule of law and tradition of a peaceful transition of power than those efforts carried out against him. So, no offense, but your complaints about Trump fall on deaf ears when you don't acknowledge the far worse transgressions of others.

2) People don't distrust the 2020 election because of what Trump SAID. They distrust the 2020 election because of what the Dems DID. Anyone in command of both honesty and the facts knows that the Dems violated election laws wholesale in 2020, and the way in which they were violated undercut the integrity of the election. You can try to argue that the lawbreaking didn't matter or was justified or whatever, but you can't argue (in good faith) that it didn't occur.

So, what you're left with, in effect, is an argument of "Hey, trust us, nothing bad happened even though we set the table for something bad to happen and had every reason to make sure something bad happened." Sorry, not buying it, nor would you if the shoe were on the other foot. And we're particularly not buying it given #1 above.

So, again, the blame for distrust in the 2020 election falls not at Trump's feet, but rather at the feet of those whom you support who violated election law on the front end. It's very simple -- follow the law, and we don't have a problem. Break the law, and we've got a problem. Your choice. Until you and others in your camp recognize this fact, any complaint about Trump's conduct is going to fall on deaf ears.

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Posted: 11/03/2021 at 10:25PM



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