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fishhoo

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Good question and absolutely they have faced


similar issues on other items. We have very complicated import regimes (including duties, quotas, etc...) on things like shoes and textiles. However, the Pangasius case stands in a unique position for a couple of reasons.

In every other case, Vietnam is part of a network of other global producers -- perhaps a significant (and definitely growing) network -- but a still a wide network and they certainly aren't naive, so they understand the game in which they are playing. Even if that game has its issues, it is one in which you enter into with your eyes open and hope you can ultimately improve. With the fish, they literally invented the Pangasius industry and even 15+ years later and have adhered to every reasonable international standard and expectation put to them. No other country has been able to approach what they can do there (for a variety of reasons, some natural to the area) -- so this battle is just so much more Vietnam-centered. Since it began, forces here have tried to smear and stop the product a variety of ways -- the biggest of which have included "rigging new rules" in ways that have just been astonishing. They are shipping product all over the world, but the U.S was one of the original markets and has represented about 20% of their exports of this product. It is also a very labor-intensive industry and in some traditionally more rural areas, so a lot of jobs there which are not in more industrial centers doing some of the other manufacturing.

The battle against things has been unique in much of its tactics and language. People and groups may preach against imports in general for a variety of reasons, but this one has been laced with extreme nastiness from the start --- accusations about safety and quality which are brazenly false and particularly ugly with the support such tactics have received from elected officials. I have seen firsthand rhetoric from Senate staff, for example, urging support on the basis of disgustingly false lies about health and safety, and there have been media campaigns using language such as "this fish couldn't spell the word U.S. if it tried". I've seen other officials say things like "hey, we need to be worried about Agent Orange in our fish...". Charming (and incidentally, demonstrably false given the transparent level of testing and regulatory oversight already in place). There is just an entire battle against this product that is not part of the normal anti-trade rhetoric. People can form their own conclusions as to perhaps why, but it has just been something that has always been one of the more disheartening things I have ever experienced -- the ugliness of which is only highlighted more when thinking about how recent the Vietnam War was actually taking place.

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Posted: 09/21/2017 at 2:29PM



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Watching Ken Burns' The Vietnam War is uncomfortable. -- Hoogle.com 09/21/2017 12:33PM
  Sure looks very similar to a Catfish (pic) -- Tuckahokie 09/21/2017 3:58PM
  That is one of the many lines of battle -- fishhoo 09/21/2017 2:47PM
  "The claims are demonstrably false" -- Faz d. Hoo 09/21/2017 4:36PM
  Ever seen an American chicken or beef farm? -- WahooRQ 09/21/2017 6:08PM
  American food standards suck too -- Faz d. Hoo 09/21/2017 11:14PM
  Eternal question about -- fishhoo 09/21/2017 5:10PM
  This is the fish in the middle of the battle -- fishhoo 09/21/2017 2:36PM
  Thanks, now I am wondering if I have ever eaten it. Thanks! -- jdubforwahoowa 09/21/2017 2:51PM
  It seems to go back and forth -- Faz d. Hoo 09/21/2017 4:46PM
  Good question and absolutely they have faced -- fishhoo 09/21/2017 2:29PM
  Always enjoy the discourse -- fishhoo 09/21/2017 4:11PM
  LOL. Had it for the first time today. -- Faz d. Hoo 09/21/2017 4:50PM
  Well? How was it? ** -- jdubforwahoowa 09/22/2017 10:38AM
  Meh -- Faz d. Hoo 09/22/2017 11:26AM
  Fascinating stuff ** -- KCHoo 09/21/2017 1:37PM
  And our government gets dumber & dumber ** -- WaxHoo 09/21/2017 1:05PM
  That is the Trumpians' fault.** -- jdubforwahoowa 09/21/2017 2:19PM
  Mine was glued to the TV the other night -- VaTechie 09/21/2017 4:44PM
  If I recall you are a Vietnam vet? ** -- WahooRQ 09/21/2017 1:00PM
  Please don't thank us for that. ** -- Hoogle.com 09/21/2017 2:59PM
  Those who served in Vietnam deserve our gratitude at least -- hoolstoptheheels 09/21/2017 3:50PM
  Ahh. Hoogle and NJ are vets? I did not realize that. -- hoolstoptheheels 09/21/2017 12:58PM
  No problem. I came back in one piece. -- NJHoo 09/21/2017 4:06PM
  Yes, they are. ** -- HowieT3 09/21/2017 1:02PM

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