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Texas v White explains it.

"By [the Articles of Confederation], the Union was solemnly declared to 'be perpetual.' And when these Articles were found to be inadequate to the exigencies of the country, the Constitution was ordained 'to form a more perfect Union.' It is difficult to convey the idea of indissoluble unity more clearly than by these words. What can be indissoluble if a perpetual Union, made more perfect, is not? — U.S. Supreme Court, Texas v. White (1869).

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Posted: 11/27/2017 at 11:12AM

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