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hoolstoptheheels

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It's a mindset thing. I am not contending that a president who


colluded with Russia should not be impeached. I am suggesting that the presumption is that he did not. And evidence would need to overcome that presumption. The mindset IMO since 1997 has been "we lost - how can we impeach?". And that's the wrong mindset.

Look at your own characterization of the ramifications of a dem house recapture next year - you look at it entirely in terms of impeaching Trump. It would be worse for the prospect of impeaching, because of how it would look politically. I know several dems with that mindset - Mueller isn't an investigator in search of truth; he is a knight riding in on a white horse to save them from Trump.

The benefit of retaking the house has nothing to do with impeachment - for a dem in particular, it would block Trump's attempts to implement his agenda - this tax bill would not be passing if dems controlled the House.

Impeachment is an absolute last resort, but it has moved in the American psyche up to the point where sometimes opposition talks like it's a first resort, to be pursued right after you lose. IMO anyway.

(In response to this post by Chuck Taylor)

Posted: 12/04/2017 at 12:09PM



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  But now he didn’t say it according to Trump -- WahooMatt05 12/04/2017 11:26AM
  Fake News! -- Beerman 12/04/2017 10:04AM
  That's true ** -- FfxStationHokie 12/04/2017 09:59AM
  He probably just also made himself a witness as well. ** -- Chuck Taylor 12/04/2017 10:29AM
  Supposedly crafted. ** -- DanTheFan 12/04/2017 09:08AM
  Right ;) ** -- Hoo TV 12/04/2017 09:12AM
  If obstruction is all they've got -- wahoo138 12/04/2017 08:53AM
  Some are expecting dems to run on "impeach Trump" -- hoolstoptheheels 12/04/2017 09:07AM
  In a nutshell, because he was elected. -- hoolstoptheheels 12/04/2017 11:07AM
  See Virginia’s election results. -- WahooMatt05 12/04/2017 11:19AM
  Impeaching him without a lockdown case -- wahoo138 12/04/2017 09:10AM
  I think it would probably be a disaster no matter what, -- hoolstoptheheels 12/04/2017 09:12AM
  Just let Mueller decide -- WahooMatt05 12/04/2017 09:28AM
  Clearly the best course. -- DanTheFan 12/04/2017 09:45AM
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ** -- WaxHoo 12/04/2017 09:19AM
  That is the thing about Trump. His out of control frenetic -- hoolstoptheheels 12/04/2017 09:11AM
  Good post ** -- 06 Hoo 12/04/2017 08:55AM
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  Not bust. Campaign issue. -- hoolstoptheheels 12/04/2017 09:17AM
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