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Well, there has certainly been a lot of (after the fact so you decide its

value) justification from Giuliani et al on "saving his marriage" grounds, too. Who's the star witness? Michael Fucking Cohen? I'm not sure how black-and-white the motives would be to a jury and accordingly wouldn't bet my own money that the result would be different from Edwards's not guilty verdict, if it went to trial.

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