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Or small businesses. As they should. Nobody wants government owning the


means of production as has been pointed out here ad nauseam. But neither do we necessarily want corporations to call the shots with government or to use governmental authority to sustain their economic power. See agribusinesses and ag subsidies, the coal industry and relaxation of environmental standards (they're still failing). On the other hand, sometimes it is prudent to do so because the alternative is not tenable. Bailout of Wall Street or the auto industry, for example.

Now...are all of those examples of socialism? Or is it just free college and government-backed health insurance?

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Posted: 07/08/2019 at 1:48PM


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  Venezuelan special forces have killed >5000. Bust just because this shit -- HokieDan95 07/08/2019 09:59AM
  The word you are looking for is authoritarianism because.................. -- Chuck Taylor 07/08/2019 11:31AM
  That democratic foundation disappears when everyone relies on govt -- HokieDan95 07/08/2019 12:24PM
  Wow! Sun Rand is alive, well & posting as HooDan. Hoo knew? ** -- WaxHoo 07/08/2019 12:49PM
  It does? Maybe you can come with an example that meets your scenario,...... -- Chuck Taylor 07/08/2019 12:30PM
  Venezuela works as an example of that. -- hoolstoptheheels 07/08/2019 12:48PM
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  Yes on Venezuela ** -- HokieDan95 07/08/2019 1:02PM
  Not really, except in the sense that the government owns the company that -- Seattle .Hoo 07/08/2019 12:55PM
  On a weighted basis, I don't think anything matters to Venezuela other -- hoolstoptheheels 07/08/2019 1:17PM
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  Again I do think it’s authoritarianism that’s the problem ** -- 111Balz 07/08/2019 12:55PM
  It always is. ** -- hoolstoptheheels 07/08/2019 1:07PM
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  Well documented in the book "How Democracies Die." ** -- Seattle .Hoo 07/08/2019 11:33AM
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  Complete control ** -- HokieDan95 07/08/2019 10:29AM
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