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Trump’s deficit legacy will be by far the worst ever
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DTsBicep
12/29/2020 08:29AM
LOL! Only Trump could make lefties hate deficits. Add that to his long list
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Hoodafan
12/29/2020 11:50AM
When you have nothing to say be passive aggressive **
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DTsBicep
12/29/2020 1:05PM
Not even close, Obama added as much debt as every president before him
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 10:46AM
Fail post!!! Lying post!!!! **
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DTsBicep
12/29/2020 1:02PM
Repeating lies again. You've been shown over and over again that is
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 12:12PM
Hypocrisy unless you're arguing against Covid spending aside, where are you
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Hoodafan
12/29/2020 12:48PM
Debt on 9/30/09 vs. debt on 9/30/17 vs. debt
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 12:55PM
So Obama gets a pass on his first 9 mos, and Trump has to swallow 9 mos of
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Hoodafan
12/29/2020 1:21PM
It wouldn't be close because Trump was only president for 4 years while
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 1:55PM
So go back to his first comparison beginning of term to end of term.
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111Balz
12/29/2020 1:48PM
You show your idiocy on a regular basis. That's how budgets work **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 1:26PM
You’ve been educated on this topic by Boca and others many times
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TomGlansAski
12/29/2020 12:05PM
If we wanted to lob turds over a fence to improve our nation, we would toss
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WahooRQ
12/29/2020 11:36AM
^^^ triggered **
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WaxHoo
12/29/2020 11:13AM
Only a moron could contort facts and words like that. Obama added 9.5T to
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81_Hokie
12/29/2020 11:12AM
Obama added more debt than trump , true or false
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 11:22AM
In total dollars true. In dollars per annum not even close. 1.07T vs 2.05T **
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HoosQ
12/29/2020 3:00PM
False. **
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Hoodeac
12/29/2020 2:55PM
"I don't like you because you're dangerous." **
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Blah
12/29/2020 11:38AM
Trump's 4 years of deficits roughly match Obama's 8 based on this chart
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CMUHoo
12/29/2020 11:29AM
Always trying to "get Trump". MAGA, baby, ... MAGA!!! Past tense. And
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Hoo TV
12/29/2020 6:07PM
Let’s keep in mind that he took office in January 2009. Four months into th
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111Balz
12/29/2020 12:37PM
Ask yourself a question. What would that have looked like under a president
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 12:00PM
You can justify anything if that's your standard
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CMUHoo
12/29/2020 2:30PM
Tax cuts don’t lead to deficits only govt spending more than it has **
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 3:15PM
You are worse than stupid. You are completely wrong and vocal **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 12:38PM
Bush: 6.1T in 8 years. Obama: 8.6T in 8 years. Trump: 6.7T in 4 years. **
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JohnHoo2
12/29/2020 11:04AM
And Dubya inherited a balanced budget to boot.
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 11:13AM
And Obama inherited a depression **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 12:39PM
Stephen Miller Jr. bashing Obama. What a surprise?!?!
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Blah
12/29/2020 11:02AM
You’re such an idiot. **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 10:57AM
...and the brief armistice ends. It was a good run, however **
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 11:02AM
Moved**
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81_Hokie
12/29/2020 10:37AM
Oh BS, you are a dedicated commie now
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 11:05AM
No worries. Republicans always rediscover their concern over deficits when
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Plano Hoo
12/29/2020 10:18AM
Serious question...I realize that the Democrats will grow the revenue side
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 08:50AM
If I were king I would do a GM style restructure of the government. We
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81_Hokie
12/29/2020 11:14AM
Remember sequestration?
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Quaker
12/29/2020 10:30AM
The only reason you had sequestration was the tea party
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 10:49AM
The only reason we had a Tea Party....well, we all know why.
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 11:14AM
An alternate way that I have proposed is BRAC II - BUDGET realignment and
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81_Hokie
12/29/2020 10:41AM
Just take away tax cuts from the top 10% and slash defense and you are on
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 09:57AM
Yes let’s steal more money from earners so you can piss it away on
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 10:53AM
You realize numbnut that the "earners" have a lower effective rate than the
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 1:28PM
What what be the % of your Defense cut? **
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 10:03AM
40-50% phased in over time. **
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 10:22AM
While I agree with cutting military spending, it is also in a way a gov
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JohnHoo2
12/29/2020 10:36AM
LOL, just notice your mindset there --> govt = jobs program **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 1:29PM
Why cant they adapt and be more efficient? **
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 10:53AM
So we DO want the government to be a jobs program? So that means keeping a
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81_Hokie
12/29/2020 10:47AM
Only if we all agree that socialism is good :) **
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 10:54AM
I find that to be a bit of irony that people who strongly support more
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JohnHoo2
12/29/2020 11:07AM
Its not irony......
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 11:22AM
Secret Service travel bills and random payments to various “properties”
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Molina
12/29/2020 09:54AM
Cut nothing for now. Worry about it when the economy is on its feet
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WahooMatt05
12/29/2020 09:51AM
Neither party has done a great job growing the pie ... that's the issue.
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Blah
12/29/2020 09:49AM
There is no consensus on cutting any spending. One side wants to cut ..
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HowieT3
12/29/2020 09:44AM
Can you imagine the billions of wasteful spending inside the DOD?
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hokie in cville
12/29/2020 09:38AM
My father spent 20 years writing the DOD budget. Yes, I can
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CMUHoo
12/29/2020 09:53AM
37% of the deficit is social security and medicare. **
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 09:24AM
You also looking at ss taxes paid in?
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 09:34AM
That's just being a pencil jockey. Spending is spending.
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 09:39AM
There is no way in hell that your salary isn't wasteful government spending **
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 10:20AM
Wow...the thread did not start devolving for almost 1 1/2 hours :>) **
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 10:26AM
Sorry, tuck. But abject dumbassery is simply abject dumbassery. **
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 11:18AM
Bigly **
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 10:23AM
Analysis of a simpleton **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 09:59AM
WADR, that's a simplistic take. **
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WahooKid
12/29/2020 09:42AM
No. There's payroll and income taxes. There is social security
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 09:53AM
Sure. So do you want to cut social security?
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CMUHoo
12/29/2020 09:57AM
Of course it is **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 09:48AM
Not really. We have a social security tax that is
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 09:41AM
You literally make this same post to me every year for like
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 09:50AM
Have you answered? It's a simple question. If you cut social
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 09:52AM
I would LOVE to change SS to some degree
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 11:01AM
But the one you're keeping "as is" is the most broken
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 11:13AM
I think health insurance and medicare
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 11:20AM
I've probably answered at least 60% of the time.
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 10:04AM
Nice non answer. Whether you think it's a dumb system or not, it IS a
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 10:11AM
My guess is his answer would go along the lines of this from the Mises
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southdenverhoo
12/29/2020 10:52AM
Dont people who earn SS and work
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 11:04AM
If they earn more than $25K as an individual or $32K combined with a
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 11:16AM
I assume the majority of people
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 11:24AM
It’s the net result that matters and it’s hard to admit this
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DTsBicep
12/29/2020 09:22AM
Some high level but decent debt analysis linked
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HoosQ
12/29/2020 10:09AM
Actually, even the spending record is better among recent Dems, according
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TomGlansAski
12/29/2020 10:02AM
Honestly, I don't think anything can be seriously trimmed. Republicans have
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graycalhoo
12/29/2020 09:14AM
Biden should hire Charles Grodin to be his budget Director!
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111Balz
12/29/2020 09:08AM
There are really only 3 areas that move the needle.... defense,
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 09:08AM
Didn't we just give defense 740B without even discussing it?
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Hokieesith
12/29/2020 09:42AM
What have you done with the real Hokieesith?!?
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TomGlansAski
12/29/2020 10:04AM
THIS **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 10:00AM
THIS **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 10:00AM
Good post, and agree with you. Would add that Medicare would be fine if it
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WahooRQ
12/29/2020 09:36AM
When you running Boca? **
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HoosQ
12/29/2020 09:18AM
I wish I had typed that. I agree with every bit of that **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 09:11AM
Defense, defense, defense. **
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HoosWillWin
12/29/2020 08:52AM
Your side is literally cheering for the new ndaa to pass. **
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 09:27AM
My "side"? When it comes to defense and budget, I'm an American. **
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HoosWillWin
12/29/2020 11:58AM
If we cut defense spending by 25% that would be about $170 billion which
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 09:08AM
A cut like that would be a serious hit to NOVA and to the 757
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757
12/29/2020 09:22AM
I live here, and would likely see some negative
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HoosWillWin
12/29/2020 12:02PM
Any cuts would be a hit to someone
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 09:28AM
True. But some more disproportionately than others
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757
12/29/2020 09:55AM
Remember the angst surrounding Sequestration? (which was relatively mild) **
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 09:32AM
Wasn’t the annual deficit about $400 billion in Obama’s last year?
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111Balz
12/29/2020 09:15AM
Iirc, it was like $650 billion (and growing) in 2016, but 2016 was a poor
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 09:19AM
587 in 2016, 440 in 2015. **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 09:47AM
Tuck's $680b is right on the nose but does not include intelligence
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HoosQ
12/29/2020 09:23AM
They will have to raise revenue substantially while cutting Defense and
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HoosQ
12/29/2020 09:14AM
Not that they'll do it, but both parties should take a hard look at how
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HoosWillWin
12/29/2020 08:53AM
#winning, hugely deficits, biggest deficits ever! **
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FfxStationHokie
12/29/2020 08:50AM
I'm one of those who hates deficits, but in his defense, I'm not
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HoosWillWin
12/29/2020 08:49AM
It was the biggest of all time BEFORE C19 and he
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DTsBicep
12/29/2020 09:27AM
Well, if it wasn't C19, then it must have been Obama's fault **
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Hoo TV
12/29/2020 10:54AM
THIS THIS THIS !!! **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 09:56AM
The King of Debt President (as advertised). **
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 08:37AM
Ah but as Will noted, the GOP is about to discover the deficit.
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Lazarus
12/29/2020 08:34AM
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