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DTsBicep
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It was the biggest of all time BEFORE C19 and he
Inherited a strong economy. The “raise spending and cut tax” strategy was COMPLETELY irresponsible and that was before 2020. He will go down as the worst fiscally responsible Pres in history ... by far.
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Trump’s deficit legacy will be by far the worst ever
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DTsBicep
12/29/2020 08:29AM
LOL! Only Trump could make lefties hate deficits. Add that to his long list
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Hoodafan
12/29/2020 11:50AM
When you have nothing to say be passive aggressive **
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DTsBicep
12/29/2020 1:05PM
Not even close, Obama added as much debt as every president before him
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 10:46AM
Fail post!!! Lying post!!!! **
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DTsBicep
12/29/2020 1:02PM
Repeating lies again. You've been shown over and over again that is
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 12:12PM
Hypocrisy unless you're arguing against Covid spending aside, where are you
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Hoodafan
12/29/2020 12:48PM
Debt on 9/30/09 vs. debt on 9/30/17 vs. debt
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 12:55PM
So Obama gets a pass on his first 9 mos, and Trump has to swallow 9 mos of
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Hoodafan
12/29/2020 1:21PM
It wouldn't be close because Trump was only president for 4 years while
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 1:55PM
So go back to his first comparison beginning of term to end of term.
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111Balz
12/29/2020 1:48PM
You show your idiocy on a regular basis. That's how budgets work **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 1:26PM
You’ve been educated on this topic by Boca and others many times
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TomGlansAski
12/29/2020 12:05PM
If we wanted to lob turds over a fence to improve our nation, we would toss
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WahooRQ
12/29/2020 11:36AM
^^^ triggered **
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WaxHoo
12/29/2020 11:13AM
Only a moron could contort facts and words like that. Obama added 9.5T to
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81_Hokie
12/29/2020 11:12AM
Obama added more debt than trump , true or false
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 11:22AM
In total dollars true. In dollars per annum not even close. 1.07T vs 2.05T **
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HoosQ
12/29/2020 3:00PM
False. **
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Hoodeac
12/29/2020 2:55PM
"I don't like you because you're dangerous." **
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Blah
12/29/2020 11:38AM
Trump's 4 years of deficits roughly match Obama's 8 based on this chart
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CMUHoo
12/29/2020 11:29AM
Always trying to "get Trump". MAGA, baby, ... MAGA!!! Past tense. And
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Hoo TV
12/29/2020 6:07PM
Let’s keep in mind that he took office in January 2009. Four months into th
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111Balz
12/29/2020 12:37PM
Ask yourself a question. What would that have looked like under a president
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 12:00PM
You can justify anything if that's your standard
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CMUHoo
12/29/2020 2:30PM
Tax cuts don’t lead to deficits only govt spending more than it has **
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 3:15PM
You are worse than stupid. You are completely wrong and vocal **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 12:38PM
Bush: 6.1T in 8 years. Obama: 8.6T in 8 years. Trump: 6.7T in 4 years. **
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JohnHoo2
12/29/2020 11:04AM
And Dubya inherited a balanced budget to boot.
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 11:13AM
And Obama inherited a depression **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 12:39PM
Stephen Miller Jr. bashing Obama. What a surprise?!?!
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Blah
12/29/2020 11:02AM
You’re such an idiot. **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 10:57AM
...and the brief armistice ends. It was a good run, however **
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 11:02AM
Moved**
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81_Hokie
12/29/2020 10:37AM
Oh BS, you are a dedicated commie now
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 11:05AM
No worries. Republicans always rediscover their concern over deficits when
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Plano Hoo
12/29/2020 10:18AM
Serious question...I realize that the Democrats will grow the revenue side
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 08:50AM
If I were king I would do a GM style restructure of the government. We
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81_Hokie
12/29/2020 11:14AM
Remember sequestration?
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Quaker
12/29/2020 10:30AM
The only reason you had sequestration was the tea party
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 10:49AM
The only reason we had a Tea Party....well, we all know why.
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 11:14AM
An alternate way that I have proposed is BRAC II - BUDGET realignment and
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81_Hokie
12/29/2020 10:41AM
Just take away tax cuts from the top 10% and slash defense and you are on
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 09:57AM
Yes let’s steal more money from earners so you can piss it away on
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TomKazanski
12/29/2020 10:53AM
You realize numbnut that the "earners" have a lower effective rate than the
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 1:28PM
What what be the % of your Defense cut? **
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 10:03AM
40-50% phased in over time. **
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 10:22AM
While I agree with cutting military spending, it is also in a way a gov
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JohnHoo2
12/29/2020 10:36AM
LOL, just notice your mindset there --> govt = jobs program **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 1:29PM
Why cant they adapt and be more efficient? **
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 10:53AM
So we DO want the government to be a jobs program? So that means keeping a
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81_Hokie
12/29/2020 10:47AM
Only if we all agree that socialism is good :) **
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 10:54AM
I find that to be a bit of irony that people who strongly support more
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JohnHoo2
12/29/2020 11:07AM
Its not irony......
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 11:22AM
Secret Service travel bills and random payments to various “properties”
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Molina
12/29/2020 09:54AM
Cut nothing for now. Worry about it when the economy is on its feet
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WahooMatt05
12/29/2020 09:51AM
Neither party has done a great job growing the pie ... that's the issue.
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Blah
12/29/2020 09:49AM
There is no consensus on cutting any spending. One side wants to cut ..
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HowieT3
12/29/2020 09:44AM
Can you imagine the billions of wasteful spending inside the DOD?
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hokie in cville
12/29/2020 09:38AM
My father spent 20 years writing the DOD budget. Yes, I can
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CMUHoo
12/29/2020 09:53AM
37% of the deficit is social security and medicare. **
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 09:24AM
You also looking at ss taxes paid in?
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 09:34AM
That's just being a pencil jockey. Spending is spending.
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 09:39AM
There is no way in hell that your salary isn't wasteful government spending **
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 10:20AM
Wow...the thread did not start devolving for almost 1 1/2 hours :>) **
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 10:26AM
Sorry, tuck. But abject dumbassery is simply abject dumbassery. **
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 11:18AM
Bigly **
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 10:23AM
Analysis of a simpleton **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 09:59AM
WADR, that's a simplistic take. **
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WahooKid
12/29/2020 09:42AM
No. There's payroll and income taxes. There is social security
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 09:53AM
Sure. So do you want to cut social security?
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CMUHoo
12/29/2020 09:57AM
Of course it is **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 09:48AM
Not really. We have a social security tax that is
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 09:41AM
You literally make this same post to me every year for like
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 09:50AM
Have you answered? It's a simple question. If you cut social
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 09:52AM
I would LOVE to change SS to some degree
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 11:01AM
But the one you're keeping "as is" is the most broken
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 11:13AM
I think health insurance and medicare
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 11:20AM
I've probably answered at least 60% of the time.
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 10:04AM
Nice non answer. Whether you think it's a dumb system or not, it IS a
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 10:11AM
My guess is his answer would go along the lines of this from the Mises
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southdenverhoo
12/29/2020 10:52AM
Dont people who earn SS and work
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 11:04AM
If they earn more than $25K as an individual or $32K combined with a
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 11:16AM
I assume the majority of people
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Zhoo
12/29/2020 11:24AM
It’s the net result that matters and it’s hard to admit this
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DTsBicep
12/29/2020 09:22AM
Some high level but decent debt analysis linked
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HoosQ
12/29/2020 10:09AM
Actually, even the spending record is better among recent Dems, according
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TomGlansAski
12/29/2020 10:02AM
Honestly, I don't think anything can be seriously trimmed. Republicans have
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graycalhoo
12/29/2020 09:14AM
Biden should hire Charles Grodin to be his budget Director!
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111Balz
12/29/2020 09:08AM
There are really only 3 areas that move the needle.... defense,
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 09:08AM
Didn't we just give defense 740B without even discussing it?
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Hokieesith
12/29/2020 09:42AM
What have you done with the real Hokieesith?!?
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TomGlansAski
12/29/2020 10:04AM
THIS **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 10:00AM
THIS **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 10:00AM
Good post, and agree with you. Would add that Medicare would be fine if it
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WahooRQ
12/29/2020 09:36AM
When you running Boca? **
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HoosQ
12/29/2020 09:18AM
I wish I had typed that. I agree with every bit of that **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 09:11AM
Defense, defense, defense. **
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HoosWillWin
12/29/2020 08:52AM
Your side is literally cheering for the new ndaa to pass. **
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ryno hoo
12/29/2020 09:27AM
My "side"? When it comes to defense and budget, I'm an American. **
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HoosWillWin
12/29/2020 11:58AM
If we cut defense spending by 25% that would be about $170 billion which
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 09:08AM
A cut like that would be a serious hit to NOVA and to the 757
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757
12/29/2020 09:22AM
I live here, and would likely see some negative
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HoosWillWin
12/29/2020 12:02PM
Any cuts would be a hit to someone
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BocaHoo91
12/29/2020 09:28AM
True. But some more disproportionately than others
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757
12/29/2020 09:55AM
Remember the angst surrounding Sequestration? (which was relatively mild) **
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Tuckahokie
12/29/2020 09:32AM
Wasn’t the annual deficit about $400 billion in Obama’s last year?
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111Balz
12/29/2020 09:15AM
Iirc, it was like $650 billion (and growing) in 2016, but 2016 was a poor
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 09:19AM
587 in 2016, 440 in 2015. **
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111Balz
12/29/2020 09:47AM
Tuck's $680b is right on the nose but does not include intelligence
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HoosQ
12/29/2020 09:23AM
They will have to raise revenue substantially while cutting Defense and
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HoosQ
12/29/2020 09:14AM
Not that they'll do it, but both parties should take a hard look at how
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HoosWillWin
12/29/2020 08:53AM
#winning, hugely deficits, biggest deficits ever! **
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FfxStationHokie
12/29/2020 08:50AM
I'm one of those who hates deficits, but in his defense, I'm not
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HoosWillWin
12/29/2020 08:49AM
It was the biggest of all time BEFORE C19 and he
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DTsBicep
12/29/2020 09:27AM
Well, if it wasn't C19, then it must have been Obama's fault **
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Hoo TV
12/29/2020 10:54AM
THIS THIS THIS !!! **
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HoodatB
12/29/2020 09:56AM
The King of Debt President (as advertised). **
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Shenhoo
12/29/2020 08:37AM
Ah but as Will noted, the GOP is about to discover the deficit.
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Lazarus
12/29/2020 08:34AM
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