The Soapbox

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You really are clueless. There are a few morons on here throwing out

the strawman of Jefferson owned slaves, when do we take down his statue. The disqualifier is treason against the union.

George Washington: Owned slaves, didn't fight against the union, keeps his statue. Thomas Jefferson: Owned slaves, didn't fight against the union, keeps his statue.
Robert E Lee: Owned slaves, fought against the union, is/will/should lose his statues
Jefferson Davis: Owned slaves, fought against the union, is/will/should lose his statues.

See the pattern? Probably not. It's not owning slaves, it's taking up arms against the union.

(In response to this post by Hokieesith)

Posted: 08/15/2017 at 10:17AM

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