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So it's basically not asylum seekers at all, and almost exclusively illegal

border crossers that are having families separated.

"The new figures are for people who tried to enter the U.S. between official border crossings. Asylum seekers who go directly to official crossings are not separated from their families, except in specific circumstances including if officials can’t confirm the relationship between the minor and adults, safety of the children, or if the adult is being prosecuted. There were an additional 35 minors separated at ports of entry in May through June 6." (vs 1995 not from ports of entry)

Odd, I could swear when these Trump is "cruel" stories started getting pushed, we were being told it was only poor endangered folks seeking asylum.

(In response to this post by Hoo TV)

Posted: 06/15/2018 at 3:44PM

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