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Hoodafan

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Hoo ever said totally controlled? More dependent on Russia, yes. While


further enriching that threatening country, yes. Both of those points by Trump are true.

I said from the start that I don't blame Germany for doing this, and don't think there is a practical (strictly cost wise, and from a politically acceptable to Germans perspective) alternative. But it is possible, if not cost effective. Poland is showing that.

But to spout the latest leftie claim that he's just "trying to tank NATO" is absurd. NATO isn't going anywhere. And certainly not going to be destroyed by any one POTUS, even if that was Trump's goal (it isn't). Only exceeded by the more absurd claim that he's doing it to benefit Putin. How the F does Putin benefit from Trump arguing that Germany should buy less Nat Gas from them?

IMO Trump's only real goal in all of this, is to get Germany (and others) to start paying more for defense of NATO countries, so the U.S. doesn't have to keep carrying as much of that burden as we've had to in the past. Nothing more complex than that.

(In response to this post by KCHoo)

Posted: 07/11/2018 at 2:10PM



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