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If your assumptions can be met I agree. Currently that is rarely

happening. That is why the adminstration is putting a pause on the practice. Perhaps the incentives can be aligned with proper service-level agreements etc. However, I have to wonder if creating the proper incentives won't make a private prison just as expensive as a public one.

Plus, there is also the argument that society may want a public official answering to them in the case of something like a prison as opposed to a corporate official that answers predominantly to their share-holders.

(In response to this post by Hoodafan)

Posted: 01/26/2021 at 1:39PM

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