As long as it's not modeled off Tricare or the VA... ** -- hoothat 03/21/2017 11:55PMHmmm. Any links to that. I'm curious as to what goes
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As long as it's not modeled off Tricare or the VA... ** -- hoothat 03/21/2017 11:55PM Single payer? means what govt. paying? No way i want my taxes -- Charleston Cav 03/21/2017 7:36PM You also don't understand what single payer is. Just a knee jerk anti-tax -- Seattle .Hoo 03/21/2017 8:05PM He doesn't want single-payer, he wants Medicare! ** -- HowieT3 03/21/2017 10:38PM Medicare only has rates as low as they are because providers can make up -- Hoo05Dave 03/22/2017 02:04AM Hmmm. interesting theory. what if Medicare were the only game in town? -- southdenverhoo 03/22/2017 03:40AM If medicare was the only game in town, I think you'd draw fewer people -- BocaHoo91 03/22/2017 06:50AM I believe a lot of people want to be doctors that can't get through the -- southdenverhoo 03/22/2017 11:17AM What's the artificial limiter? Number of medical school slots? -- BocaHoo91 03/22/2017 11:31AM The accreditation racket makes the market for medical schools non-free. -- southdenverhoo 03/22/2017 12:08PM My biggest problem is that it decouples cost from lifestyle and risk and -- 81_Hokie 03/21/2017 6:40PM Nonsense. I guess you shouldn't be covered if you have a genetic -- Seattle .Hoo 03/21/2017 7:02PM Last I checked "genetic predisposition" is exactly NOT a lifestyle choice. -- 81_Hokie 03/21/2017 7:21PM Your assumption presupposes a profit motive. That's the real reason for the -- Seattle .Hoo 03/21/2017 7:54PM At what point do we say enough is enough? -- 757 03/21/2017 7:20PM That's where you have to make a call. It would be a decision by a medical -- Seattle .Hoo 03/21/2017 7:57PM My only concern is the composition of the board. -- SchmHoo 03/21/2017 8:41PM The Milton Friedman matrix -- HokieDan95 03/21/2017 6:00PM Friedman would also say maximize profit to maximize good. -- hoodeyo 03/21/2017 7:16PM Social Security Administration efficiency with I.R.S. charm ** -- Tuckahokie 03/21/2017 5:34PM Plus longer life expectancy and lower infant mortality rates. -- Old Dorms Rule! 03/21/2017 5:58PM I'm not sure if single payer will help as much with the absurd obesity rate -- HoosGuy 03/21/2017 6:35PM Let the South secede. Problem solved! (Yes, I'm joking.) ** -- Seattle .Hoo 03/21/2017 7:04PM Diabetes too. -- hoodeyo 03/21/2017 6:45PM We fare pretty well on disease outcomes. Check the cancer survival rates -- BocaHoo91 03/21/2017 6:05PM We're very low in amenable mortality though. -- hoodeyo 03/22/2017 02:34AM Hmmm. Any links to that. I'm curious as to what goes -- BocaHoo91 03/22/2017 09:33AM The study I saw looked at '99-07 so perhaps it's out of date by now. -- hoodeyo 03/22/2017 1:33PM Thanks. One interesting observation from that link is that -- BocaHoo91 03/22/2017 2:12PM Interesting stuff. There's so much in play with all of this. -- hoodeyo 03/22/2017 2:45PM Check out the bankruptcy rates. That doesn't happen in other countries. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 03/21/2017 6:54PM No argument from me on that. There are issues with our -- BocaHoo91 03/21/2017 7:30PM Yes you put systems in place to deal with that. It wouldn't be cost free to -- Seattle .Hoo 03/21/2017 8:01PM This is a reason the board format can use work. -- ryno hoo 03/21/2017 6:29PM 2 considerations...Aren't our Cancer survival rates at or near the -- Tuckahokie 03/21/2017 6:03PM How much of the $ is procedure-based payment vs. preventive care? -- Old Dorms Rule! 03/21/2017 7:22PM Screwing the big insurance companies doesn't concern me. -- BocaHoo91 03/21/2017 4:59PM Well, the US has been subsidizing this research for the world. -- HoosWillWin 03/21/2017 5:37PM I'd prefer to stop subsidizing the rest of the world vs slowing -- BocaHoo91 03/21/2017 5:39PM Family member was prescribed a new drug without Generic option...$625.00 -- Tuckahokie 03/21/2017 5:31PM Cheap compared to some drugs -- Hfbyrd 03/21/2017 6:42PM How much should it cost? ** -- BocaHoo91 03/21/2017 5:32PM Not sure...but I suspect when generic does come out it will be way -- Tuckahokie 03/21/2017 5:39PM Right, but the recovery of the R&D is a pretty key point. -- BocaHoo91 03/21/2017 5:59PM I agree...would rather have the drug than not even at that cost. We just -- Tuckahokie 03/21/2017 6:05PM Who else? The benevolent government. ** -- Hokie5150 03/21/2017 5:10PM I wouldn't support destroying all incentive for the pharmaceutical industry -- hoodeyo 03/21/2017 5:22PM Government tends to make things bigger/worse than they -- HokieDelNorte 03/21/2017 4:09PM It does -- Beerman 03/21/2017 4:38PM Free market requires access to information that a medical consumer doesn't -- southdenverhoo 03/21/2017 4:54PM Absolutely correct -- Beerman 03/21/2017 6:04PM Which I agree with, but the point I intended but failed to make -- southdenverhoo 03/21/2017 6:17PM I agree with that as well ** -- Beerman 03/21/2017 6:24PM As our system is the most expensive in the world; twice the cost of Canada -- Quaker 03/21/2017 4:12PM Most people would also argue we have the best healthcare in the world too. -- HokieDelNorte 03/21/2017 4:21PM You think baristas have healthcare? -- NJHoo 03/21/2017 4:43PM Starbucks offers healthcare to employees that work 30 hours. ** -- HokieDelNorte 03/21/2017 4:50PM Ha ha NJHoo, Del Norte has obviously put some thought into this plan of his ** -- southdenverhoo 03/21/2017 4:55PM DelNorte may not be snooty enough for Starbucks ** -- Tuckahokie 03/21/2017 5:06PM My wife was Marketing Manager for their Central Zone (7 states) -- HokieDelNorte 03/21/2017 6:00PM Was goofin' of course...although once and awhile you run into that snooty -- Tuckahokie 03/21/2017 6:07PM We're no healthier than other Western countries ** -- hokeyhokie 03/21/2017 4:39PM But is that more a function of healthcare or lifestyle? ** -- Hokie5150 03/21/2017 4:58PM Healthcare. These aren't poor backwards people ** -- hokeyhokie 03/21/2017 5:46PM No, but they're fat people -- BocaHoo91 03/21/2017 6:11PM One need not be poor backwards people to live an unhealthy -- Hokie5150 03/21/2017 5:58PM I think it's likely both. Some lifestyle stats: -- hoodeyo 03/21/2017 5:19PM Look at infant mortality rates to minimize the lifestyle question -- Old Dorms Rule! 03/21/2017 5:11PM Some analysis on that -- BocaHoo91 03/21/2017 5:55PM One must be careful, though, in comparing infant mortality rates -- Hokie5150 03/21/2017 5:54PM It is both, so both need to be addressed. It's not an either-or.** -- SchmHoo 03/21/2017 5:09PM I'm not suggesting it is an "either-or" situation. Simply pointing out -- Hokie5150 03/21/2017 6:11PM That is a different argument. ** -- HokieDelNorte 03/21/2017 4:50PM