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And that really is the problem. We can create all the various models in . -- GoochlandHoo 06/23/2017 09:55AM Joey can you provide a link to those numbers? I ask because -- 111Balz 06/22/2017 8:28PM I got it from here (link) -- Joey Wahoo 06/22/2017 8:54PM The $9,900 is the number I saw, and the source sems to be the same -- 111Balz 06/23/2017 07:18AM Yes we should. But we will have to destroy the food industry. ** -- Hokieesith 06/22/2017 6:55PM Yes- bring the normalized (per citizen) numbers down -- Capital City Hoo 06/22/2017 6:29PM Excellent question. To reduce the money spent without people dying -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 5:59PM Systems being different because patients are different. -- Lich 06/22/2017 6:54PM Admin and wildly variable pricing are much bigger factors. -- hoodeyo 06/23/2017 04:17AM I hate taxes so much I'm almost allergic but we need MASSIVE taxes on food -- CharlestonSC 06/22/2017 7:32PM Haha- I just finished a salad and generally agree -- Capital City Hoo 06/22/2017 8:28PM I just got back from a visit to Detroit. There are no supermarkets -- Hooddihsm 06/23/2017 09:21AM I understand there /ARE/ food deserts, but Charlottesville certainly isn't -- CharlestonSC 06/22/2017 8:44PM Yup- never said those factors explain all of it, definitely -- Capital City Hoo 06/22/2017 8:55PM Haha! I'm glad you started the cycle studio, fella -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 7:43PM That's a good point, too. And the way we fund agriculture plays into that -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 6:56PM Where the fuck are you buying broccoli?? ** -- wahoo138 06/23/2017 06:04AM Acme. 10th and Spruce ** -- KaHOOnah 06/23/2017 09:53AM We need to quit repeating the claim that healthy food is too expensive imho -- Joey Wahoo 06/22/2017 7:21PM Yeah...all this stuff is cheap at Aldis ** -- GoochlandHoo 06/23/2017 09:30AM I think a big part of it is lack of time and resources. -- WahooRQ 06/22/2017 8:40PM Most people do not plan ...... -- VaTechie 06/23/2017 10:04AM That's true for some, but we see the same thing even among the unemployed -- Joey Wahoo 06/22/2017 9:04PM There is a difference between cost to produce and the cost to the consumer -- 111Balz 06/23/2017 07:27AM Dude, I love your message and applaud you for trying to change minds. -- WahooRQ 06/22/2017 10:55PM Why does it have to be kale and heirlooms though? -- wahoo138 06/23/2017 06:14AM It doesn't, of course. Although packaged frozen veggies aren't overly -- WahooRQ 06/23/2017 09:15AM Frozen veggies are actually very nutritious -- Joey Wahoo 06/23/2017 10:56AM You can get a kale salad with steelhead -- Capital City Hoo 06/22/2017 8:59PM They are significantly more expensive, but not always to the consumer. -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 7:32PM In this case I actually do know what I'm talking about -- Joey Wahoo 06/22/2017 8:50PM And a dozen eggs at Aldi's is $0.49 cents. Yeah, that is not a misprint. -- GoochlandHoo 06/23/2017 10:06AM We spend far less of our income on food than any civilization in history -- Joey Wahoo 06/23/2017 10:50AM It's the "make it yourself" part that's the problem -- wahoo138 06/23/2017 06:20AM Then I stand corrected. -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 11:32PM Thats crazy...8% for dialysis. CKD caused by DM and HTN... -- Lich 06/22/2017 7:06PM Right. And it's 8% of Medicare's budget. Sorry for my brainfart. -- KaHOOnah 06/22/2017 7:11PM Oh gotchya. Down in NC (near Winston Salem now) but -- Lich 06/22/2017 8:40PM .** -- Lich 06/22/2017 7:05PM Unfortunately, the best way to reduce health care cost is -- Hokie5150 06/22/2017 5:55PM I agree that's a significant part of the problem. But... -- Joey Wahoo 06/22/2017 6:36PM Right, and I think his point is largely a red herring -- 111Balz 06/22/2017 8:18PM Fear of lawsuits is a huge factor in our health care cost. Lots of -- ESHooFan 06/22/2017 8:54PM I think that is over stated and while there is some opportunity -- 111Balz 06/23/2017 07:10AM It also makes the machine a profit center for them. ** -- KCHoo 06/22/2017 9:11PM Those countries restrict what doctors can do on a cost/benefit -- KCHoo 06/22/2017 8:12PM I would rather have the insurance company handle it than a politician. ** -- ESHooFan 06/22/2017 8:56PM I believe a single payer system is the best way ** -- NJHoo 06/22/2017 6:01PM It's going to make you healthier? ** -- Hokieesith 06/22/2017 6:12PM Yes -- Quaker 06/22/2017 6:55PM It would do that for those who would otherwise not be able to have insur. ** -- NJHoo 06/22/2017 6:21PM I doubt it. ** -- Hokieesith 06/22/2017 6:28PM We are in a conundrum because that would wreck our economy -- Hoepner 06/22/2017 5:38PM Per our discussion yesterday, we should seriously consider -- HoosWillWin 06/22/2017 5:26PM The Medical Assistance Guarantee for Americans. Or MAGA for short. ** -- WahooMatt05 06/22/2017 5:32PM I agree, but I don't see how this bill addresses rising costs -- WahooMatt05 06/22/2017 5:06PM My post wasn't related to the bill. Just saying that whatever our... -- Joey Wahoo 06/22/2017 6:32PM It doesn't -- ConnHoo 06/22/2017 5:10PM