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Seattle .Hoo

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I wouldn't bother, that ship has left the dock. Clearly the Bern isn't


proposing ownership of the means of production by the government. But he is saying that he doesn't believe there should be billionaires (personally I think a lot of them are corrupt but I'm content with taxing them more and reducing their influence not eliminating them entirely). He is saying that government should require corporations to have workers on their boards (which is a good idea that some companies already do but I don't think government should require it). He is proposing free college (which some states are thinking about already but also including vocational education; at the national level I question it).

Medicare for all might actually work (as Boca cogently pointed out below) and we may actually get there at some point Bern or no Bern, and IMO this is where most people get confused. If you ask them if Medicare for all is socialist they might say yes, whether they're for or against it. But if you ask them specifics about premiums, out of pocket expenses, pre-existing conditions, etc, they actually come pretty close to Bernie's proposals. Are they socialists? No. Will the label stick particularly since the GOP will use it and Bernie doesn't shy away from it? Yes.

Might as well not sweat it. ;)

(In response to this post by 111Balz)

Posted: 02/23/2020 at 2:15PM



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Time to stick a fork in everyone else? -- BambooHoo 02/23/2020 08:33AM
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  The DNC is already panicking -- Faz d. Hoo 02/23/2020 5:28PM
  He’s not a socialist ** -- 111Balz 02/23/2020 1:31PM
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  Two of mine are on the list. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 02/23/2020 4:21PM
  They have more money than Seattle. That's not fair. ** -- Hokieesith 02/23/2020 3:17PM
  Lmao. Sure he isn’t. ** -- moohoofus 02/23/2020 1:51PM
  Why are you denying him his self-identity? ** -- JMHoo 02/23/2020 1:33PM
  Yeah, even Sanders himself is not denying it. ** -- BambooHoo 02/23/2020 1:39PM
  Regulation is control... ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 2:12PM
  10 commandments are regulation ** -- HiwasseeHoo 02/23/2020 2:29PM
  And? ** -- hoothat 02/23/2020 2:32PM
  Yes and it's quite often a good thing. ** -- Seattle .Hoo 02/23/2020 2:16PM
  Revolution? People that are walking around with cell -- Hokieesith 02/23/2020 1:12PM
  And coming for pervs like yourself ** -- HiwasseeHoo 02/23/2020 1:16PM
  Are you going to sit on me Fat Bastard? -- Hokieesith 02/23/2020 1:19PM
  Man, you have lost it ** -- WaxHoo 02/23/2020 1:53PM
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  No. Because the current system is broke. ** -- HiwasseeHoo 02/23/2020 1:14PM
  And that will fix it? ** -- moohoofus 02/23/2020 1:50PM
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  Yeah, I do not see why others cannot see this -- VaTechie 02/23/2020 8:19PM
  Comrade! Exactly... ** -- southdenverhoo 02/23/2020 1:17PM
  And what about health insurance? That goes away? -- Hokieesith 02/23/2020 3:34PM
  If it was up to me, everyone would get -- BocaHoo91 02/23/2020 3:54PM
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  Fair points -- BocaHoo91 02/23/2020 11:41AM
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