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I just want to see the same scrutiny and derision applied to PPP largesse

I believe we've sunk much more money into that program than we did into bailing citizens out with extended UE benefits. We've spent like drunken sailors on leave for sure, but if we're going to be critical let's include it all.

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Posted: 07/29/2020 at 12:34PM

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