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Wasn't this one of the major selling points for ACA? That we would save -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 12:15PM Michigan Study: Drop in unpaid hospital bills -- DanTheFan 07/16/2017 8:38PM Thanks Dan. That is good news about the drop vs pre-ACA even though -- Hoodafan 07/17/2017 10:28AM The answer is the same answer its always been. Unless everyone is covered -- 111Balz 07/16/2017 2:31PM And everyone will need to pay something into the system -- KCHoo 07/16/2017 2:57PM How exactly are you going to get residents of, let's say, Norton -- Faz d. Hoo 07/16/2017 11:13PM Yep ** -- 111Balz 07/16/2017 4:40PM Which, wrt not having enough young and healthy folks begs the obvious ` -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 3:14PM Maybe the 3x cap should be re-calibrated. I agree that the key -- 111Balz 07/16/2017 4:46PM The 3X cap was nice in theory in that you pay more when young and healthy -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 5:08PM Whether 3x or 5x the key is that the upper end MUST be affordable -- 111Balz 07/16/2017 8:39PM The upper end will never be affordable. That isn't how health care works. -- Faz d. Hoo 07/16/2017 11:32PM That proviso was built to counteract the stereotype of the recent graduate -- HowieT3 07/16/2017 7:22PM The first of the baby boomer surge are entering their seventh decade...with -- Tuckahokie 07/16/2017 3:50PM This is all because the GOP sabotaged the program ** -- Tuckahokie 07/16/2017 12:20PM It might have something to do with the GA refusing to expand Medicaid, no? ** -- southdenverhoo 07/16/2017 12:36PM Yes, and from a provider perspective, Medicaid covers less cost -- 111Balz 07/16/2017 2:32PM Not to mention states that refuse to run their own ACA exchanges. ** -- WahooRQ 07/16/2017 12:55PM You've made that comment many times so please educate me. Why does that -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 1:09PM A bit dated now, but a Pew study on the subject. -- WahooRQ 07/16/2017 1:20PM A bit more current -- WahooRQ 07/16/2017 1:24PM Thanks for both of those. And BTW I would not use the "it's dated" method -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 2:06PM I wouldn't count on RQ to understand much -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 1:14PM You may be a doctor, but you are policy and politically illiterate. ** -- WahooRQ 07/16/2017 1:22PM To answer your post below -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 1:52PM Thanks, but that doesn't really answer the question. -- WahooRQ 07/16/2017 2:00PM FWIW, and I'm not saying I necessarily agree with the states that didn't -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 2:31PM Refusing to start down an unsustainable path is not an argument that -- Hokie5150 07/16/2017 2:12PM What joka is calling "unsustainable" was, ironically, a pre-existing -- WahooRQ 07/16/2017 2:22PM It absolutely was -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 2:35PM Perhaps, but refusing to expand Medicaid (at 100% federal funding through -- WahooRQ 07/16/2017 2:50PM The negative is the feasibility -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 3:16PM There you go again, all persuasive & logical & shit... ** -- southdenverhoo 07/16/2017 1:26PM All well and good, but when it comes to dealing with trolls -- WahooRQ 07/16/2017 1:34PM As opposed to dajoka's post? Garbage in, garbage out. ** -- KCHoo 07/16/2017 1:33PM In this very thread, he appears to be educating you on our system -- HoosGuy 07/16/2017 3:26PM If more people are being insured because of the ACA than before this -- Tuckahokie 07/16/2017 12:41PM Correct. And even with expanded Medicaid, that would add to the -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 1:00PM Increase is result of change by the hospital. -- DanTheFan 07/16/2017 12:54PM Hence why I made the comment about fungible. But as I understood it, that -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 1:05PM The other two had increase of 1-1.5% -- DanTheFan 07/16/2017 2:56PM Yet you and others kept telling us we had to pass ACA because we -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 3:08PM Has anything happened they promised? Of course not, this is just -- TomKazanski 07/17/2017 10:02AM You have to have providers to get these people care -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 1:12PM Absolutely! And one of the biggest problems with ACA (and -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 1:22PM Why wouldn't supply and demand principals lead to more supply ** -- KCHoo 07/16/2017 1:48PM In addition to the medical school / residency bottleneck issues -- BocaHoo91 07/17/2017 07:23AM Medicaid pays substantially less than Medicare. That's why you don't see -- Hoodafan 07/17/2017 10:45AM The doctor bottleneck is caused by the professional union but supply of -- KCHoo 07/17/2017 10:19AM I know it hasn't, at least not anywhere near enough. And that's what I was -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 2:18PM Markets don't adjust instantly. Especially when training is required. -- KCHoo 07/16/2017 2:35PM For Medicaid patients, it's my understanding it is. Or at minimum less -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 2:50PM Well that is very different from the statement you made. -- KCHoo 07/16/2017 2:55PM Not different at all. Supply was not increased dramatically enough to match -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 3:01PM Medical school spots have to align with residency positions -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 2:32PM Thanks! I knew there was a bottleneck in the supply chain even if -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 2:45PM What incentive is there for physician supply to increase? -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 1:59PM More overall available money to be made from increased -- KCHoo 07/16/2017 2:04PM Why would I want to take on new, complicated patients that pay less? -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 2:24PM You wouldn't. Which is why the principles of supply and demand should -- KCHoo 07/16/2017 2:32PM Do you know what physician oversight entails? -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 2:39PM Yes. And over time the years without treatment issue would -- KCHoo 07/16/2017 2:51PM Your train of thought may apply to other businesses -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 3:22PM Why wouldn't it still apply for healthcare? Seems to me it's because we put -- Hoodafan 07/16/2017 3:38PM The money paid doesn't meet the providers' compensation -- Hokie5150 07/16/2017 2:15PM Because of governmental interference in the marketplace. ** -- Hokie5150 07/16/2017 1:52PM How so. ** -- KCHoo 07/16/2017 1:55PM See my above post ** -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 1:59PM Exactly. ** -- Hokie5150 07/16/2017 2:13PM