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Hoodafan

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Thanks Dan. That is good news about the drop vs pre-ACA even though


it wasn't really the main question I asked. (It did address my point about being able to compare current hospital losses to pre-ACA losses, somewhat) Has that drop in unpaid bills ($300M in Mich), combined with more insured due to the individual mandate, indeed lead to lower hospital charges, and thus insurance premiums, as you guys promised would happen with ACA's passage?

In theory it should, but you certainly can't tell by looking at my premiums/deductibles on the exchange. I would also ask if this can truly be viewed as a savings (not that this is the only measure of success by any means) if all we've done is shift the cost from unpaid bills added to our charges, to Medicaid bills which get added to our tax demands. For example, from what I just found on MI, it looks like their Medicaid spending went from $12.4B in '12 pre-Medicaid expansion to $18.4B in '16 post expansion. That's a $6B and 50% increase in Michigan alone, just for Medicaid which as close to Gov't controlled healthcare as we have other than the VA. To save $300M/yr in unpaid bills. Obviously there is a whole lot more that goes into that Medicaid growth (healthcare cost increases, population increases, positives of more people getting healthcare, etc.) but I'm struggling to see how this was a great return on investment, let alone the savings we were promised.

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Posted: 07/17/2017 at 10:28AM



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  Michigan Study: Drop in unpaid hospital bills -- DanTheFan 07/16/2017 8:38PM
  This is all because the GOP sabotaged the program ** -- Tuckahokie 07/16/2017 12:20PM
  Increase is result of change by the hospital. -- DanTheFan 07/16/2017 12:54PM
  The other two had increase of 1-1.5% -- DanTheFan 07/16/2017 2:56PM
  You have to have providers to get these people care -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 1:12PM
  How so. ** -- KCHoo 07/16/2017 1:55PM
  See my above post ** -- dajoka004 07/16/2017 1:59PM
  Exactly. ** -- Hokie5150 07/16/2017 2:13PM

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